Paatero

Hey, conversation about warzone! That's great and all, but too bad it's only in Swedish... Could someone wrap it up in English?

This rule should be polished and added. I think NLA should escort illegal stuff for payment, and gangs/PMC for legal (&illegal).

Well, sorry to be hater but red line means 75% damage or more.. Next colour is 50% or more and so on.

And when you change rules how about making a server announcement/message about it, either announce the change itself or tell that rules has been changed. For example every 30 minutes for 3 days or something.

1. Maximum police online

This has been in the talk in our admin meetings and already solved.

 

 

Hope the information helps

Have fun!

The information helps! Thank you

I don't really know if these things really ever change anything but would be nice if they would

I get it, medics are supposed to have rules. I remember a time there were three medics online, and two were with police on bandit. However, thank you for bringing the medic POV on topic, Oddjob.

Send message with the phone can be called lack off RP. Read the rules

Oh really? I'm glad you told me that. I'm pretty sure I just said what popo said to me. I know the rules.

Hi there, once again!

Instead of spamming admins on our personal opinions, we decided to make one document, where everyone cries their part. In this post, I try to gather the "general opinion" of CN but keep in mind this is how I see it, and some of CN might see it a bit differently. On document, you can see view of every single person.

Link to original document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YyzhOeeaRWtt3DeE0bZjJfEjWRED9-1d0lYAUKtTsEM/edit

Regarding:

Maximum police online:

There should be no limit on amount of police online. However, the amount of police in same area should be limited (Kavala checkpoint, bandit, federal wherever they stack). Now, if something happens, the whole popo force might be on same spot, leaving the rest of the server without police. The increased number of police should be used to watch over checkpoints, patrol etc. (I hear that police numbers have now decreased though).

Maximum amount of police in a vehicle:

No limit.

Thermal on vehicles:

Something everyone completely agrees on. They should be removed from every single vehicle, including drone. It is way too OP for altis life. Just leaving this script & link here: NAME disableTIEquipment true; http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?168571-disable-hunter-thermal-sites Not sure if that's of any use in server side, but at least got it to work in editor (with single vehicle, which name was defined). It also removes night vision.

Silencers:

They should be removed from EVERYONE, except maybe the 9mm and 0.45ACP silencers. They should literally be removed from houses and inventory. This would make combat so much better: people can't be 200m away and make no noise. I think it would improve the chances of the ambushed people, and be better on rp. Also, it would make ambushing and fighting more intelligent, since you have to think about that too. I understand that people will say: "big gangs and police and rebels have silencers in real life", but this is now about balance, and this is how we feel.

NVG:

Most of us think that NVG should be removed, since now night is just a green day. This would make nighttime different gameplay, and make stuff like chemlights useful. If this could be done done, consider adding flashlight on black market? Police and NLA should have maximum of one Night vision scope per 8 cop/rebel online. But we have one very strong NO vote for removing NVG.

Faction cooperation:

We think there should be no faction cooperation. This includes medics and police. No idea on police having medics following the police leaving the rest of server without medics. Medics should treat

everyone equally. The agenda of police & NLA doesn't allow them to co-operate. We had occasion where police helped NLA to get their HEMMTs back.That is as if ISIS were getting attacked by Civilians, and the USA comes to help ISIS.

Medics reviving people in mid-combat:

General opinion seems to be that they shouldn't. It doesn't make sense that someone just got shot in the head, then he just rejoins the fight after a moment. There's also the opinion, that they could do it with their own risk, making them KOS on firefight areas.

Gangland buying poles or buy a certain area:

This is a bit late to say but since it's still topic to change, I'm including it too. We think that with proper supervision poles are ok, the placement of them should be strictly controlled and the rules should be detailed on what's allowed and what's not.

In my opinion the current buying and placing system is very good.


These are of course topic of conversation, and I wish that people think what they write and provide proper conversation.
And if I got something here wrong, I guess CN people can also say so

P.S. Not sure why this post got so wide (at least in preview, but I don't care enough to change it)

At least use English. We can use google translate, yes. But if you're not going to use english, I won't bother reading now that it's clear we're not swedish.

Edit: Tai sitten alatte puhumaan suomea ja kasvatatte rintakarvat ja huudatte "PERKELE!" ja saunotte ja vihdotte kuin mies. Sauna, Terva & Viina. Alussa oli suo, kuokka, ja Jussi. Siihen se olisikin ilman sisua jäänyt.

First of all, Ebolasso isn't even the gang leader...

Second of all, we don't consider you guys competition. Personally, I'm not sure if I even heard of you guys before. Third, we treat you guys as any other minor gang. Worth mentioning you had the chance to buy them back.

We don't really have anything against you, and for that and reasons above, we don't accept this war.

Two APD guys (Can't remember which two) said that you can send messages to helicopter (for example, "if you land, we shoot you") but I'm not sure if this applies to civilians too, and what kind of text messages are allowed.

My desktop needs a video to show it The quality suffered a bit on upload to youtube, but you'll get the idea.

                          

It's even rare that people actually go through the check-point to interact RP with the police.

 

Well, that might be explained due to the fact that they're usually empty. When I started on this server, I always stopped to honk on the gates for some time. Then realized that there's never anyone, so now I just pass them offroad, since it's much more likely held by bandits than cops. Kavala Checkpoint is much more often manned, but it's basically a warzone, sadly. I understand that can't really be changed by police, since if you guys go there, people will come for you, and if someone else is there, they're just robbing or baiting.

You forgot ABBA.

Fixed it!

I understand this is forum of SVERIGE TRE KRONOR ABBA IKEA KÖTTBULLAR server, but I'd appreciate if you kept this in English, perkeleen hurrit. Or do it like Hitem. By that way, you can also hide random insults and inside jokes there and we don't probably notice.

Hi there, and thanks for opening this topic!

So, recently police has been powerless against terrible robberies on federal reserve and bandit district has been captured quite frequently. In no way, can this be blamed on lack of coordination or tactics, so I have come to conclusion: "The PoPo" needs to have some changes on equipment. Rumor tells that police has gained silencers for 9mm to 7.62, and this unconfirmed news is a good start.


We have seen their hunters hunted, escaping for their dear lives. The hunter is no longer working as intended, since some people realized that the sideglass of hunter isn't as strong as the front window. And even the front window can be destroyed.

Because of this, I suggest that all ranks of police get access to slightly stronger vehicle: AMV-6 Marshal

As you see, this vehicle is still highly vulnerable due to it's tires. So this is supposed to be a patrol vehicle.


So, as an actual combat/crime related vehicle, the police should get something more stronger. I suggest this role will be fulfilled by the IFV-6C Panther. (Higher ranks of police should get M2A2 Slammer UP)

These vehicles still can't get inside houses, and may have some trouble inside cities. So for this, there is a simple fix: give police M4 Scorcher and M5 Sandstorm

M4 Scorcher

M5 Sandstorm

With these two reasonably powerful mobile artillery, police can force the bad men to move out of cities. Artillery would be also a powerful negotiation card, thus adding more RP on this server.
Edit: these vehicles must be so they can't be lockpicked.


And naturally, police needs some personal armory adjustments, such as adding scopes, like Nightstalker. Still, these small changes on vehicles would strengthen the police reasonably to hoped level




(And if someone SOMEHOW misses that I'm not being serious, or take this as personal "f**k you", that is not intended )

Apparently police need no proof like us mortals.

Name: [C.N.] Liberatore Lorenzo

Offender-Name: (W.W.O) Sam

Date: 10.11.2014

Reason: RDM

And here I was wishing never to post these here anymore. The situation is this: I land and sell one slave, then notice the message that doesn't properly show up. Noticing the message is from WWO I go to my helicopter to check the message in left corner since I kind of expected bad RP from them. Then (started the engine for safety reasons) and then notice the message "hand up". The message doesn't really give me at least two options, but of course I realize that otherwise they'll shoot me. But the reaction time I was given is too short, and the following rule is violated: "Voice over in direct chat MUST be used during a robbery when giving the victim an ultimatum (Failing to do so is considered meta gaming)" and I wouldn't consider shooting the pilot to be proper way to disable the vehicle, though I'm not sure how that is ruled.

And the proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frlaRUteMsc&feature=youtu.be

They actually killed me earlier by using only messages, even after I was wearing only underwear and outside the range of hopping in helicopter. At that time I was in kind of good mood and decided that I don't save the recording because it's not worth the trouble of editing, uploading posting, etc. so no proof of this exists but it made me upload this. Also, losing the Katiba which is 500k + the amount of money spent on capturing Bandit district and the attachments are lost here, so some compensation would be fair in my opinion.

Well, at least I tried to talk with you. But let's see how the admins resolve this.

He was actually going to block you further, we didn't wish to destroy our own HEMMT. But my point is: you can't break the rules because someone else does. Also, just landing on safezone isn't considered against the rules, is it? Flying over the city constantly in less than 150 meters is, but that is not what you see here. It's two different things. 

I ask you one thing: please answer my previous question about your logic, instead of giving me more accusations. You can state also other things, but I wish that to be among those.


P.S. My thread about "evil Björt" was not about you guys, but about exploiting the safezone. There is a reason I didn't even name you there. Also let's please please keep shit like this out of the thread "No offence doe, but not only me think that, you are a group of people who terrorise the whole server with your shitty RP and your shitty attitude."

Okay let's try this again

Statement 1) You, Björt, know for a fact that you HAVE NOT breaken the rules at any point.

Statement 2) You know you broke the rules by ramming the helicopter.


Statements combined: You know you did not break the rules, yet you know you broke them.

You don't see any conflict between those?

 

 But one thing for sure is that I atleast follow the rules. I know that ramming the helicopter was not okay

So if I understand correctly: you know for certain you were following the rules yet you broke the rules? This logic is lost on me.

Name: Paatero

Date: 30.9.2014 (happened 28.9.2014)

Offender-Name: (Cv-D) Björt

Reason: VDM

Well sadly, we've come to this. I wasn't even going to post this. But then there was so much post-bullshit after the Pyrgos safezone camping douchebaggery So, basically i land behind him to block him to buy police time. Then he rams me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFBVaWKiepo

Edit: Also, in the end of the video you can hear one of the many chances he was given to get out from the HEMMT. (Saying this just to disprove that he couldn't get out, but let's not make the topic about this, thank you!)

Funny that none of these KK-194 requests hasn't been resolved. Also, the off-topic kinda started on random Swedish insult But agreed, keep that shit out of this topic.

Well this leads to a point where you 

A) pay compensation

B)get me another beret somewhere + pay compensation

C)wait together with me what admin has to say about this