Kebre Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Now when we have som money to spend on some new hardware I want all the users to contribute with what kind of upgrade you think we should do. My plan is some brand new hardware to use for a fully dedicated arma server. We have the current Server Upgrade money - 340$ I have the following RAM (new) laying around home and was thinking to find a motherboard which can use the RAM to save more money for a better cpu(s). Also some other parts that we don't need to put money on. 8 x SNPRYK18C/8G (DDR3, ECC, 1600Mhz, PC3-12800) 700W PSU LSI MegaRaid SAS 9240-8i (thread here) 4x300GB 3.5" SAS 15k RPM 7x74GB 2.5" SAS 15k RPM I think that if we can find some motherboard that fits our needs the rest of the money will just go for a stronger CPU. Any thoughts ideas etc please post, link and share so we can get the best possible Share a complete cart with a complete server or if you think we should by a prebuilt server. (Try to keep it to parts we can buy in stores within Sweden) VisionPie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Webhallen varukorg Detta tror jag skulle funka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebre Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Webhallen varukorg Detta tror jag skulle funka Pengarna räcker inte ens till en av den typen av CPU Har i dagsläget en Xeon E5-2620 så om man skaffar en till kan vi fylla båda CPU sockets:arna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm sorry to say, but even though the E5-2620 we're currently using is a good CPU, it's not optimal at all for Arma 3 It would be more suited for multitasking jobs It's way to low clocked. Arma 3 only utilizes 2 cores. 2 Xeon E5-2620 would just mean we had 12 cores, where we only really need 2 or maybe 4 for 2 servers. For arma 3 something like https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-1660+v2+%40+3.70GHz&id=2120 would be better. Though its pricey around 1000 dollars. Dunno how much in sweden though http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-1650+v2+%40+3.50GHz&id=2066 would be good aswell. cheaper but still around 600-700 dollars If you look at the benchmarks they are pretty decent cpus aswell. But the current 2.0 Ghz, and is imo. to low. The one goatis linked had 2x8 cores, well would be cool if we choose to run 8 servers! ^^ the clockspeed is better, but still not perfect. But just remember, arma 3 needs 2 high clocked cores, more then 2 cores isn't necessary better, especially if they're low clocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 An SSD for the server, doesn't have to big, as it's not for archiving/backups. A highly clocked CPU, close to 4ghz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 So why are we not just buying a i7 with 2011 socket so we dont need to swap motherboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Something like a http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorkomponenter/182015-intel_core_i7-4930k-12_tradar-34ghz-12mb-socket_2011_130w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 A strong CPU Goatis. But I prefer Xeon myself Besides the 2 cpus I linked is also a 2011 cpu the Xeons got the benefit of being ment for a 24/7 environment, the I7 isn't The xeon got ECC and other goodies aswell. It might be more expensive, but it sould be more reliable aswell. Kebre if you dont mind can you like the motherboard we currently have to see if it supports the cpus mentioned in this thread? http://www.misco.se/Product/Product.aspx?P_ItemId=7244278&hbx_CMP=AFC-02&cm_mmc_o=VybgwgBF5CjCVybgwyAEEwyCjCuwwpCjCzkk 10k swedish krona if this could be effored that would be great otherwise thereshttp://www.misco.se/Product/Product.aspx?P_ItemId=7244147&hbx_CMP=AFC-02&cm_mmc_o=VybgwgBF5CjCVybgwyAEEwyCjCuwwpCjCzkk 5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeChuuck Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Ska ni köra diskar i raid så är det raid 10 som ger bäst prestanda för vad som ska köras, glöm ej dock kolla så att kortet har support för det OS/VM som ni kör. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 LeChuuck vi har redan ett raid kort som är kompatibelt med vårt OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Jeppe i guess you are right for a server a xeon is better, anyway I think we can all agree that we need a server upgrade asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Scotty i dont think a SSD is so important. Arma dont write/read so much to the database Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Well a small SSD is always a good investment, they don't have to cost that much Won't a SSD make the server reboot faster aswell? They don't cost to much either. Vic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Jeppe, I dont think so because the server is located on a SAS disk and that is fast, and the operating system is on a virtual machine so when we do a full restart the disks never shut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Oh im retarded didnt read we are building a fully dedicated arma server xD If there will be a dedicated server i think a SSD will be an good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Mr GW and Goatis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 http://datorfixarna.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=48309 seems cheaper for some reason edit: ahhh without fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Björt Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 Well, when does this upgrade happens and I am glad that staffs care about the player experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebre Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 http://datorfixarna.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=48309 seems cheaper for some reason edit: ahhh without fan You think we should put most of the money in a badass CPU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong but I feel that is what's bottlenecking the server right now. and I feel the cpu is the heart and brain of a server. I'm not an expert or anything, I've just made this judgement from what hardware other altis life servers have been using and what those threads have said was recommended. I would rather upgrade 1 thing a 100% and then wait a bit with the rest, then upgrading it all a little bit, and then having to do a new upgrade in a month or 2. But again I'm not an expert ^^ Just know we need a high clocked cpu and that one seems to be the best one out there. But the money seems to be rolling in for hardware upgrades. Even if we spend most of the money for a badass CPU I'm sure there will be enough to upgrade other parts soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitem Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I gues its hard to test the server on another setup to see if its actually the setup that is causing the issue. But as jeppe said, just by looking at the charts it points towards CPU -> HDD bottlenecking in that order unless there is some configs for VM-ware that im not aware of that can cause similar issues. Maybe a faulty raid-configuration aswell. But here i trust in you kebre! Hence the push for a powerfull CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kebre Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 It would feel ridiculous to upgrade the CPU with over 1000$ and it would not help.. Also the CPU is not heavy loaded thats is why I am concerned why this would help. IF it needs more Ghz the core should be laying at a much higher load. BUT Arma engine is f***d up so what do I know The reason why I want to "upgrade" other parts is because the server is not fully dedicated since it runs in WMware. If I can get a motherboard and CPU I can build a dedicated machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeppe Olsen Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Again I'm not an expert, and most of my comments I based on what I've read on http://www.altisliferpg.com/. But on altisliferpg,I also remember reading a thread, in where people stated that the % of the doesn't nessecary have anything to do with the cpu bottlenecking. It stated that a cpu with 40% usage (don't remember the exact %) might aswell be bottlenecking the server. I'm guessing that's something to do with the cpu usage % maybe is the overall load, and arma 3 only uses 2 cores for the most part, and therfor the cpu usage will never hit 100%? again not sure What is the current CPU running at when 80 pop? I think you mentioned it was running at 90% at one point, and in my eyes thats a bottlenect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatis Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The server CPU is running at ca 80% at 80 pop, but none of the cores is overloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Put a i7 and a SSD in there and you'll be fine! And don't forget to overclock it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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